Re: Newbie needs help...

From: Mark Rush (msr714_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 11/13/03 

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 19:38:13 -0600

Brandon wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:08:58 -0800, Jim wrote:
>
>
>>On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:07:41 +0000, Brandon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:54:54 -0800, Jim wrote:
>>>
>>>snip...snip
>>>
>>>
>>>>Try a different video card, an older one. Go into the display
>>>>properties for RH and set everything to generic...generic video generic
>>>>monitor....and then switch back to your Radeon card. Let us know if
>>>>that works.
>>>
>>>you don't need to do this, you can download radeon drivers for linux. go
>>>to http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html for information straight
>>>from ATI
>>
>>As a new user i recommend AGAINST attempting to download any drivers in
>>the convoluted confusing and frustrating world of linux. ATI may be
>>different then nVidia but I suspect they are modeled alike.
>>
>>In the nVidia camp you have to start without the x window system running
>>and then when you execute the installer it actually wants the header files
>>for parts of the OS, which means it is going to try to compile something
>>on your machine.
>
>
> as root:
> init 3; sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-rest-of-file-name.sh;
> thats is to hard?
> (the compilation is done automatically if needed)
>
>
>>This is a sacralidge in the computer world. No users should be compiling
>>portions of the OS just to get a driver installed.
>
>
> I guess the user *should* have to own more then one video card,
> and switch then in and out? sounds harder then 2 commands to me :\
>
>
>>So, unless you are vet and you understand exactly what is going on and are
>>willing to put up with the potential to recompile parts of your OS to get
>>a driver installed then follow his advice.
>
>
> He's right, much easier just to work extra hours to get the extra
> money to buy another more *generic* video card that won't work as
> well...
>
>
>>I would recommend the path of least resistence. Swap a video card for and
>>older one (if you have it) and see if x windows works. Then review and
>>select your current video card from the list PROVIDED by RH. Then
>>reinsert your old card.
>
>
> I don't know about ATI drivers provided by RH, but the NV driver they
> provide is not hardware accelerated... Boy I love playing quake at 12 fps
>
> /* start rant */
> sorry for the sarcasm, but how is a "newbie" ever going to learn if
> they don't actually get the computer to work for them (ie... with the
> hardware they want) instead of them working for the computer (ie...
> with the hardware that has good default setups)
> /* end rant */

Dude you don't have to put up with lousy fps - go get Nvidia's driver
for linux, do the usual remove the 'Load "dri"' line from
/etc/XF86Config, change (in the vidcard driver section in the same file)
"nv" to "nvidia", drop out of X and get to a prompt, type 'export
IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=true' then run the Nvidia driver installer. It will
build a custom kernel module and the drivers will install and you'll be set.

Mark

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