Re: redhat vs debian

From: O)-^-(O (spam_at_nospam.haha.net)
Date: 11/21/03


Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 19:21:22 -0700

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, HS wrote:
> (O)-^-(O) wrote:

> I did face problems, for not for long because I am already familiar with
> Linux. But the lack of GUI engineering is glaring to anyone with any
> basic knowledge of softare engineering or of human computer interaction.

That's my point. Distros like Debian are not for newbies (win transfers).
Period!

> > Very much so again! Unless you are interpreting "It makes no sense to
> > make an OS..." in a different context. Installer is only a gateway to
> > a different world, If I don't like the gates I don't go away.
> > Ofcourse, I go away if the gates can't be opened, but that is
> > impossible and eventually turns back to the stupidity of the walker.
>
> But why would anyone make gates that are ugly, difficult to open and
> leading to a confusing drive way when all this can be done in a more
> organized and neat manner?

I don't think it's as difficult or hard as you make it sound. The debian
installer is minimalistic. It just has what it takes to install an OS
nothing fancy.

> Who specifically engineers such crapy properties in their house's gates?

Those who use their gates only once?

> > Yes it is so. That's one of the philosophies of Debian. A reason for
> > it's existense. How can you ignore it when someone comments abt
> > "making" of a distro is senseless?
>
> er .. I am not commenting about the actual installed running OS and its
> maintenance. I am very specifically talking about the installer, and the
> installer only.

I am not saying you did. But the OP did. He connected one time gates with
what's inside the house.

> > So that you do it right once? And cultivate good habits? :)
>
> Show me that makes you pass a course on good GUI design and I will agree
> with you :)

Well, GUI was not designed coz it was not needed. Now they are feeling the
need to reach out and so they are working towards developing it.

> > It will, the Next Generation Installer is on it's way! ;)
>
> See? That vindicates all my points. Thank you.

I never disagreed with your claims. All I am saying is debian is not for
newbies.

> So it *is* agreed upon that a "Next" generation installer is being
> worked out.

Yes. http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=5136

> If the present installer was great and fine, there shouldn't have been a
> need for a new one, now would it?

Well, again, I am not disagreeing at all there.

> > I am not for it either.
>
> Didn't get this one.

I meant I am not arguing for debian. ;)

O^O



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