Re: F9 - Unmitigated disaster

Mladen Gogala wrote:
Bruce Coryell wrote:

There are many complaints going on right now on other Linux newsgroups
regarding both Ubuntu and OpenSuse. You should try CentOS - also based
on Red Hat, but it avoids the bleeding edge stuff that is plaguing you
in Fedora. The current version is 5.2. Another good one is Debian.
Ubuntu is based on Debian, but again, Debian itself is more mature and
less bleeding edge.

I did try CentOS and it is good for server stuff. Unfortunately, the distro
I am complaining about is meant for desktop. It is hard to get xmms-mp3,
vlc, ffmpeg or MPlayer for CentOS. I am an experienced Linux user, with
more then 8 years of Linux experience. Who is Fedora meant for? Is it
really meant to be so much of the bleeding edge that it's nearly useless?
What is the idea of rendering ndiswrapper and GDM useless? How about Skype?
Is it really that hard to be a little more conservative? Fedora used to be
rather stable distribution, usable both as desktop and server version.
Can you, at least, tell me whether the issues I listed will be fixed in F10?
You know, gdmsetup, ndiswrapper and skype? Who will use desktop distros if
they're so unreliable? I use Fedora since version 1, I used RH 9 before
that and now I am disappointed to the point that I am considering
abandoning Fedora altogether. Who is Fedora meant for?

Fedora is bleeding edge, and allows RHEL to be server stable. This is a big issue in Linux: the tradeoffs between toolkits written last week and dependent on widgets written last month and never stres tested, and the stuff that's had a few thousand man-hours invested in debugging in the field, is huge.

For MPEG players for Linux, you have a licensing and software patent issue. If you're in the US, you sort of have to buy the licenses and software for server use. But since I'm not in the USA right now and don't have to worry about software patents for now, I look over at the 'Penguin Liberation Front' and their Mandriva based tools to port over to RHEL or Fedora, as needed.
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